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| biggus wrote: | what made me smile - recycling old wheel bearings and making a beam trolley for the beam in my garage  |
And here it is (in case anyone actually gives a flying f*ck) 
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Looks like a lashing point for Melz 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| GT wrote: | | Looks like a lashing point for Melz |
For me more like it 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| biggus wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | what made me smile - recycling old wheel bearings and making a beam trolley for the beam in my garage |
And here it is (in case anyone actually gives a flying f*ck)
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cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it  .
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked  |
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biggus
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | what made me smile - recycling old wheel bearings and making a beam trolley for the beam in my garage |
And here it is (in case anyone actually gives a flying f*ck)
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cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
I dangled myself from it to test
Beam should be good for half a tonne easily with a very good safety margin - I did dig out my old Mechanics Lecture notes and did some calculations on it, but got bored . The bearings on the trolley are those that would normally be on the front end of a CBR600 or Firestorm, therefore usually taking a static load of approximately half the motorcycles weight between 2 of them (say 100kg) and a dynamic loading of considerably more than that under braking/cornering etc, there are 2 sets there (i.e. 4 bearings) I would happily hang 200kilos from that one trolley, although, I am on the look out for a larger ring nut 
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked |
ffs you 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| GT wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked |
ffs you
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a third party site i know but all the same more info showing concerns for the supporting structure
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=645474&nmt=Testing%20an%20RSJ%20in%20my%20garage?
it really is dependant on what the intended use is ......if its just competition for tuskys barn ....shouldnt be a problem .....if its looking to lift big weights .....id look at calculations etc .......i know is duncs pride an joy and would hate to hear of anything disastrous.
i like the idea someone came up with of uprights either end in rsj to strengthen the supporting columns.
as i said before i havnt seen the whole project and dunc may well already have carried out all of this.
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Oi slappy you are a tosser sometimes, but its why i luv ya mate
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| GT wrote: | | Oi slappy you are a tosser sometimes, but its why i luv ya mate |
only sometimes???.....i must be slipping |
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | GT wrote: | | Oi slappy you are a tosser sometimes, but its why i luv ya mate |
only sometimes???.....i must be slipping |
Yeah but your always a cnut if it's any consolation!
(I had to google that for spelling and i was laughing at COC on Absoloute this morning tis true i am forgetting how to spell things)
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biggus
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | GT wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked |
ffs you
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a third party site i know but all the same more info showing concerns for the supporting structure
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=645474&nmt=Testing%20an%20RSJ%20in%20my%20garage? |
The beam itself is 6 inch Square I Beam - it is supported either end by 2 uprights of the same section material. The top of the uprights is bolted to the beam, the bottom of them to the floor. The uprights are bolted to the garage walls also ( to prevent "toppling"). I would happily suspend a bike entirely from it.
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Errmmmm Dear Biggus can we please move this to the Nerdsville section!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| biggus wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | GT wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked |
ffs you
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a third party site i know but all the same more info showing concerns for the supporting structure
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=645474&nmt=Testing%20an%20RSJ%20in%20my%20garage? |
The beam itself is 6 inch Square I Beam - it is supported either end by 2 uprights of the same section material. The top of the uprights is bolted to the beam, the bottom of them to the floor. The uprights are bolted to the garage walls also ( to prevent "toppling"). I would happily suspend a bike entirely from it. |
id happliy suspend the front of a medium weight car from that sort of set up ....sounds like a top job |
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The fixing will fail before the beam will... end of
Jesus..... I have to make do with timber beams in the barn.....
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | GT wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked |
ffs you
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a third party site i know but all the same more info showing concerns for the supporting structure
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=645474&nmt=Testing%20an%20RSJ%20in%20my%20garage? |
The beam itself is 6 inch Square I Beam - it is supported either end by 2 uprights of the same section material. The top of the uprights is bolted to the beam, the bottom of them to the floor. The uprights are bolted to the garage walls also ( to prevent "toppling"). I would happily suspend a bike entirely from it. |
id happliy suspend the front of a car from that sort of set up ....sounds like a top job |
You still driving a Reliant Robin?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| GT wrote: | | Errmmmm Dear Biggus can we please move this to the Nerdsville section! |
wasnt such a daft question after all was it |
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| just to colaborate what a thick cnut i am i usually used 2 rachet straps over the timber beams in the garage to lift the Bandit and have since done the same with the 14 ......anyone know a good roofer? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| southernspeed wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | GT wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | JimBo wrote: | | GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | cool ...how did you calculate its load bearing limits? |
By a practical method, he swung on it . |
no seriously i was thinking that duncan is a fairly well educated fella and may well have researched somewhere like this http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators.htm
to enable him to guage the limits of the beam ......i suspect the bearings in the trolley will fail long before the beam actually gives out and dependant on where the beam is mounted if the supports disintegrate before that.
dont know as havnt seen the whole project which is why i asked |
ffs you
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a third party site i know but all the same more info showing concerns for the supporting structure
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=645474&nmt=Testing%20an%20RSJ%20in%20my%20garage? |
The beam itself is 6 inch Square I Beam - it is supported either end by 2 uprights of the same section material. The top of the uprights is bolted to the beam, the bottom of them to the floor. The uprights are bolted to the garage walls also ( to prevent "toppling"). I would happily suspend a bike entirely from it. |
id happliy suspend the front of a car from that sort of set up ....sounds like a top job |
You still driving a Reliant Robin? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| GSEX-SLAPPY wrote: | | just to colaborate what a thick cnut i am i usually used 2 rachet straps over the timber beams in the garage to lift the Bandit and have since done the same with the 14 ......anyone know a good roofer? |
Corroborate !!!
You thick cnut
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Tusky - your avatar bears a striking resemblance to how Jordan now looks with her top lip done
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Karen paying for her dads bike tax today  (As a surprize)
When she was a teenager she gave us such alot of heartache always fighting, in trouble with the police, never went to school.
She was given so many hours doing a youth referral, she had to go back to school on a Saturday for 6 weeks. She hated it. After the 6 weeks she became a young lady over night, she pulled her life together. Now we are proud of her, holds down a full time job in the army and loves it. This is the second time Karen has paid for something for us, not asked her too. She phones every day to make sure we are both o.k
Good on you Karen we love you to bits and you are still our little pop.X
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| Lisette wrote: | Karen paying for her dads bike tax today (As a surprize)
When she was a teenager she gave us such alot of heartache always fighting, in trouble with the police, never went to school.
She was given so many hours doing a youth referral, she had to go back to school on a Saturday for 6 weeks. She hated it. After the 6 weeks she became a young lady over night, she pulled her life together. Now we are proud of her, holds down a full time job in the army and loves it. This is the second time Karen has paid for something for us, not asked her too. She phones every day to make sure we are both o.k
Good on you Karen we love you to bits and you are still our little pop.X |
 That's what family are for...... you've got a goodun there
| ninjabob wrote: | | Tusky - your avatar bears a striking resemblance to how Jordan now looks with her top lip done |
Funny that..... so do my boobs
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Well I wont be getting swine flu, had the jab today. 
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